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comparison of full nylon 2P and 3P tents for colder nights

comparison some of the best freestanding full fabric 2P tents in 2021

feature Sea to Summit Telos TR2 PLUS MacPac Apollo Mont Dragonfly Exped Orion II
price on sale $AU879 $AU349 $AU999 $AU1199
season usage 3+ season 3-4 season 4 season and still great in summer 4 season and still good in summer although consider Extreme version with silnylon UV fly
best for.. ultralight hiking in warm or cool areas tough design great for 2x schoolkids or car camping; alpine hiking; very spacious all purpose tent; tall people; 1-2 adults hiking; unprotected sites eg. Iceland, alpine base camps; high rain/wind cool-cold climate areas; car camping for those with bad backs
weight 1.7kg 2.8kg 2.65kg 3.2kg
packed size 13 x 13 x 48cm 56 x 21cm 44x18cm + 45cm poles 42 x 16cm
storm / wind proofing ?good very good excellent excellent
livability in prolonged rain 1P dubious, inner space the smallest; OK excellent as spacious, waterproof floor and zip ceiling vents excellent thanks to large vestibules and doors
set up in rain without inner wet yes no yes with footprint? yes
pole attachment clipped 2 threaded to inner; velcro to fly; clipped all threaded
poles 8.5 and 9.0mm 8.5mm T6 9.6mm DAC 9mm DAC
colours green or grey blue with white inner green with yellow inner red or green with yellow inner
inner tent 20D nylon with mesh ceiling vent and mesh upper part of doors 40D all nylon 20D all nylon (15D on 2020 model) 30D all nylon
floor 30D 8000mm floor 70D 10,000mm 70D, 25,000mm 70D 10,000mm
fly 15D silPeU 1200mm with apex vent silPU 1500mm with above door overhang vents 30D sil PU 2000mm with above door vents which align with inner vents which can allow nice bird hide capability 40D PU 1500mm with above door overhang vents (Extreme has SilNylon)
inner height 105cm 115cm 110cm 125cm
internal width 109 to 134cm 130cm 140cm 130cm
internal length 215cm 210cm 220cm 215cm
internal area 2.62sqm 2.86 sq.m 3.08sq.m 2.7sq.m
vestibule width 75cm ?75cm 70cm 95cm
vestibule area 1.6sq.m 1.8sq.m 2.3sq.m
ingress/egress good good good excellent
door size 100x100x88cm (approx)
dual layer door NO, 2/3rds nylon, upper 1/3rd mesh full, rolls up to non-wind end full rolls up to centre of tent full, rolls up to centre of tent
door position triangular base at end triangular starts at non-wind end central triangular base at end central D doors
door rain protection with fly open OK if pegged out OK if pegged out but need to bring a clamp to do so as no peg hole on the door that opens seems good but only if pegged out, no protection if folded back very good as deep vestibule overhang
ridge pole upward concave to give extra height to doors NONE std convex convex to ground
ability to open wind end vestibule yes, entire fly can be opened at each end and left attached in middle for fast closure if rain comes yes but no tie back so need to bring a clamp yes also has part way peg holes no, unless remove ridge pole and use guy ropes
fully nylon sealed inner dust proof mode NO yes yes yes
zippable open inner vents only upper part doors? only doors doors and ceiling vents - all dual nylon/mesh only doors
can set up without fly yes and can also have fly attached in middle and ready to apply yes yes yes but more difficult and need guy ropes
can set up with fly only yes and can be used as Hangout sun shade mode with trekking poles to elevate one end no ?possibly with footprint yes, easy
extra features Hangout mode; fly can stay on in middle only; pack comes in 3 parts for sharing and also doubles as tent pockets and diffused holder for ceiling lamps; tough design for kids with proven durability to last over 20 years of hiking; poles pass through inner tent's tunnel attachment which can wear out over time and does prevent setting up with fly only; use as a bird hide; has most waterproof floor and the strongest poles which double cross; gear loft; 3 ceiling carabiners; extra height for tall people; large doors; hybrid tunnel design with ridge pole to ground; gear loft;
other versions mesh version: $AU849 3P version Polaris NB. 2020 version only has 15D nylon inner; 2021 version has 20D; Extreme version has UV protected silnylon fly but gets saggy and takes longer to dry when wet; Orion III is a 3P version;
Compared to full nylon Mont Moondance II, the Dragonfly is 10cm wider, stronger pole layout with shorter poles, larger vestibules with additional peg out options, 30D fly instead of 20D, 70D floor instead of 40D, more storm-proof and is thus 560g heavier

other 2P full fabric tents

    • 3 season tent
    • 2 9.6mm DAC poles with a standard convex cross pole
    • 20D ripstop nylon inner with only top half of each door having dual mesh/nylon plus dual zippable ceiling vents
    • 20D silNylon 2000mm fly with dual ceiling vents
    • 40D 25,000mm waterhead floor
    • 2.09kg (2021 version is slightly heavier than previous version as uses 20D canopy instead of 15D)
    • 216 x 128 x 100cm high internal area 2.86 sq.m
    • 70cm vestibules
    • packed size 33 x 15cm? + 49cm poles
    • $AU879

3P full fabric tents

  • Exped Venus III DLX EX
    • 4 season, 4.9kg, extra large vestibule making it 4.45m long
    • 115cm high
    • $AU1995
  • Exped Orion III
    • 4 season, 3.6kg
    • build similar to Orion II above but 160cm wide and 140cm tall and total length 3.5m not 3.1m
    • $AU1299
  • Big Agnes Copper Spur Expedition HV 3
    • 4 season
    • 1200mm silnylon fly
    • minimal door mesh area so perhaps too warm for Australian summers
    • 10,000mm floor
    • 2.8kg
    • 229 x (158 to 178) x 104cm high
    • 76cm vestibules
    • packs to 51 x 20cm
    • $AU929
  • OnePlanet Goondie 3 Nylon
  • OnePlanet Wurley 3 snow
  • OnePlanet Wurley 3
  • MacPac Polaris
    • 3-4 season 3P version of MacPac Apollo aimed at school groups
    • 217 x 180 x 120cm high 3.6 sqm floor area
    • 75cm 0.8sq.m vestibules supported by ridge pole which extends to ground
    • 40D nylon inner
    • 1500mm PU fly
    • 70D PU 10,000mm waterhead floor
    • packs to 60 x 22cm
    • 3.53kg
    • $AU459 on special
  • Marmot Fortress 3P
australia/tents_coolnights.txt · Last modified: 2021/06/14 21:43 by gary1