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hot tents (tents with wood stoves inside)

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  • I don't sell any of these nor do I receive any remuneration if you buy them, and I have not personally reviewed all of them, they are listed here to give you perspective

Introduction

  • these are particularly popular in the Nth Hemisphere for camping in sub-zero / snow conditions
  • they need to made of sufficiently fire retardant material and with an opening for a chimney flue which has fire resistant flashing
  • the chimney flue will need to have a double or triple shield to reduce risk of nearby tent material burning
  • you will also need a fire mat on which to place the stove
  • there must be adequate ventilation at all times and you should have a carbon monoxide alarm as an extra precaution
  • you probably do NOT need a HOT tent in Australia UNLESS you plan on camping:
    • in the snow or inland in winter when temperatures fall below zero deg C
      • need a waterproof tent with 2 doors and no need for mesh nor even a floor as almost no insects to bother you
    • in cold conditions with prolonged persistent rain (not sure why you would plan to do this!)
      • need a waterproof tent with 2 doors and waterproof floor
    • and you love to cook inside the tent despite poor weather
  • most will be better off with a stove OUTSIDE the tent and/or with other safer methods of keeping warm when camping or hiking
  • wood stoves for camping CAN be a real pain even outside the tent!

Risks of a stove inside a tent

  • carbon monoxide poisoning
    • stove must be enclosed with a chimney that exits the tent however even with this, a strong wind or a blocked chimney may result in carbon monoxide entering the tent
      • keep your chimney pipes clean inside to remove any creosote build up
      • keep damper door open
      • preferably one person should remain awake at all times to keep watch
    • the tent MUST be well ventilated (ie. open windows or doors)
    • you should preferably have a carbon monoxide alarm in the tent
  • tent catches on fire
    • this should not happen with a:
      • proper stove properly fitted to the tent with double or triple wall chimney pipes, etc
      • stove sitting on a large enough fireproof blanket
      • care not to knock it over
      • spark arrester securely fitted to chimney
      • fire retardant tent
    • as extra precautions:
      • have a fire extinguisher
      • sleep with a knife to slash your way out of the tent if your only exit is blocked
      • choose a tent with two doors to exit from and leave them open
  • 3rd degree burns from contact with the stove
    • ensure there is 1.2m walking space around the stove
    • don't get drunk
    • don't have trip hazards
    • use fireguards if children or pets are around
    • use heat protective gloves when accessing the stove
    • don't place stove in walking path to an exit
  • you get too hot inside the tent
    • then you get sweaty and can get cold when you put the fire out
    • commonly for a 2 person tent in the snow, the ceiling air will be well over 30degC while the stove is running
  • increased condensation risk inside tent
    • once the fire is out and the temperature drops, the air is no longer able to hold the same amount of water vapour from your breathing as before and this results in condensation in tents unless you take measures against this
  • if you have a Winnerwell Nomad wood camping stoves and you want to use the pipe oven, the tent's flue opening needs to be high enough (at least 1.2m high) to accommodate this and that may require it to be more central than peripheral
  • chimney must extend at least 1m higher than the tent's flue opening and at least 60cm higher that the highest point of the tent
  • the stove must be more than 1.2m from any flammable material (1.5m clearance above the stove)
  • tent must be ventilated by at least a 0.5m2 opening (however tent must be fully open when starting fire as there will be a lot of smoke from low temperature combustion!) and air flow controller on stove must be fully open to minimise carbon monoxide re-entering tent
  • must check chimney and spark arrestor daily to ensure no creosote build up otherwise risk of chimney fire or carbon monoxide issues
  • if there is the possibility of strong winds, you must attach non-flammable guy ropes to the chimney to stabilise it - NO, you can't do this once the fire is burning!
  • DO NOT LEAVE IT UNATTENDED
    • someone MUST be awake at all times while it is burning - it will consume oxygen in the tent and there is a risk of carbon monoxide poisoning and of course, fire.
    • ie. you MUST stay awake until the fire is out!

Canvas tents

Lightweight tents

  • Amazon sell some from the US with fire retardant stove jacks for the flue
    • Danchel Outdoor Hot Tent
      • 3.2m diam, 1.6m centre pole; no inner mesh, no floor; 210T polyester; 3.6lb; white; $AU188;
    • King Camp Torino hot tent
      • 1.6m diam; 1-2P; tub floor; 5.4kg;
    • One Tigris Rock Fortress teepee style
      • “6p” 4 season tent; 3000mm 70D coated nylon; double doors with quality zippers; snow skirt; two top vents;
      • no inner mesh and no floor; 3.8m diameter, 2.4m centre pole; 4.2kg; packs to 58*20*20CM;
    • Vilemoon 3P Tipi white teepee
      • 3.2m diam, 1.6m centre pole, 3000mm 210T polyester; double doors, no inner mesh or floor; 4lb;
    • Preself 4P teepee style 5lb without the half inner mesh option;
      • only 20D and single zipper on zips;
australia/tents_hot.txt · Last modified: 2022/08/01 22:42 by gary1

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