genealogy:oglejohn1802
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descendants of John Ogle and Rosanna Hughes
introduction:
- although the Ogle family are not directly related to me, John Ogle's son, Joseph married a sister of my ancestors, Eliza GLARE (1834-1893), and for completeness, I have devoted a page to the Ogle family.
- John OGLE (1802-1877) of Felton, Northumberland was transported to Tasmania on the convict ship Layton, arriving 01 Sept. 1841 and spent time on Slopen island and Brickendon. He had been convicted of two offences - one for stealing six pounds worth of bacon and a sheet, and another for stealing ladies clothes. He got 7 yrs on each account and was lucky he didn't get more for attempting to escape. In 1840 (?), he was accommodated on the convict hulk Warrior - interestingly, my ancestor (and Eliza Glare's ancestor), Lt.Peter Mills was a midshipman on this ship in 1804 well before it became a convict hulk.
- John OGLE's parents were:
- John OGLE who was born in Newton on the Moor and baptised in Shilbottle, a village close to Lesbury.
- Jane DOXFORD (c1775-): conflicting possible versions of which Jane DOXFORD:
- born in Lesbury, the daughter of Arthur Doxford and Jane Watson, of Greenriggs near Lesbury, baptised at Lesbury on July 30 1775 (source: Meg Hartford)
- born in Tynemouth, Northumberland, daughter of John DOXFORD and Mary GRAY (source: Kathy Page (Glover) who is descended from Helen Allan.) - it seems this version is incotrect as apparently this Jane DOXFORD married a John Chater at Tynemouth
- John married Rosanna HUGHES (appears to have been born in Scotland c1806/07) who arrived in Tasmania at aged 42yrs with her 5 children in 1849.
- Rosanna was recorded as living at 49 Bondgate, Alnwick, England.
- John died in Koroit, near Port Fairy, Victoria.
- The family moved to Port Fairy, Victoria.
- a shipping record of passengers on the Red Rover (schooner), per City of Sydney from Portland Bay via Port Phillip in the The Cornwall Chronicle (Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880), dated Saturday 27 April 1850 includes 2 passengers: John Ogle, Joseph Ogle, Jnr
- Their daughter Jane married Alexander ALLAN, a convict who had been transported to Van Dieman's Land (Tasmania).
- both Alexander ALLAN and David TEMPLE used to scavenge timber from shipwrecks on the beach and may have seen the “Mahogany” ship. Perhaps they were responsible for its disappearance!
- source: Kathy Page (Glover)
- Their son Joseph married Eliza GLARE, a daughter of a convict who also was transported to Tasmania and who also moved to Port Fairy in late 1840's or early 1850's - perhaps the two convicts knew each other in Tasmania?
- one of Joseph's daughters was named Doxford perhaps after Doxford Hall and farm which were close to Alnwick in England.
- Joseph and his wife, Eliza were buried in Tower Hill cemetery with the Ogle family.
Brief list of descendants of John OGLE and Rosanna HUGHES:
Jane OGLE (c1828-1899) d. in Warragul, Vic.
- m. Alexander ALLAN (c1819-1906)in May, 1851 in Port Fairy, Vic.
- John ALLAN (1851-)
- Alexander ALLAN (1852-) b. Belfast, Vic
- Rosannar ALLAN (1854-1921) b. Belfast, Vic. d. in Ballarat, Vic.
- m. William McKENZIE (1838-1914) of St John, New Brunswick, Canada, in 1878 in Terang, Vic.
- Hugh McKENZIE (1880-1935)
- William McKENZIE (1881-1952)
- Alexander McKENZIE (1883-1973)
- Rosanah “Rose” McKENZIE (1884-1954)
- James McKENZIE (1887-1888)
- Cuthbert McKENZIE (1892-1893)
- Ina May McKENZIE (1893-1894)
- James Leadham McKENZIE (1895-1976)
- Ellen Temple McKENZIE (1900-1991) b&d Ballarat
- George ALLAN (1856-) b. Creswick
- m. Emma Holmes
- Honorah ALLAN (1886-1961) of Warragul
- m. William John WALKER (1881-1960)
- William George ALLAN (1889-1945)
- George ALLAN (1891-1909)
- Emma Veronica ALLAN (1893-1966)
- Eileen Mary ALLAN (1894-1972)
- Frances Susan ALLAN (1897-1971)
- Thomas James ALLAN (1899-1965)
- Anne Cecilia ALLAN (1902-1978)
- m. William Gove FOGARTY in 1927
- Allan FOGARTY
- m. Lois Grace HOSKING
- Kerin FOGARTY
- m. Frank GRIFFITHS
- William GRIFFITHS
- Jamie GRIFFITHS
- John FOGARTY (-1998)
- Grace Kathleen ALLAN (1904-)
- Jane ALLAN (1859-) b. Creswick
- Joseph ALLAN (1860-1916) b. Bald Hills near Creswick, buried Coburg
- Helen “Ellen” Josephine ALLAN (1862-1928) b. Belfast, Vic, buried Fawkner cemetery
- Mary ALLAN (1864-) b. Belfast, Vic,
- Hannah “Annie” ALLAN / ALAN (1866-) b. Belfast, Vic,
- m. Thomas GAY
- Catherine “Kate” ALLAN (1868-) b. Belfast, Vic,
- David ALLAN (1870-1871) b. Belfast, Vic,
- Albert Edward ALLAN (1874-) b. Belfast, Vic,
John OGLE (1831-1853) - died in Bendigo
Joseph OGLE (1834-1893)
- m. Eliza GLARE (1834-1916) on 28/12/1853
- Rosanna Hughes OGLE (1855-1942)
- m. UNK Violet OGLE (1888)
- Eliza Sophia OGLE (1858-1878)
- Joseph Benjamin OGLE (1860-1923)
- m. Louise Christina PAYTON in 1891
- Joseph Benjamin OGLE (1892-1970)
- m. Catherine Cecily THICKENS in 1926
- Doris Ruby OGLE
- Gladys Muriel OGLE
- Hilda Riddell OGLE
- Robert Gordon OGLE
- William Edward OGLE
- Eileen Cecelia OGLE
- Charles Mills OGLE
- Grace Darling OGLE
- Jane Ann OGLE (1862-1888)
- m. John SPRING in 1887
- John Henry OGLE (1865-1933)
- m. Ruth HAIN in 1896
- Roy Hain OGLE
- Gertie OGLE
- m. DOWLING
- Daisy OGLE
- m. ALLEN
- Jack Glare OGLE
- m. Irene May ELLIOTT in 1929
- George Glare OGLE (1869-1940)
- m. Annie BOWKER (1866-) in 1895 see here
- George OGLE (1896-)
- Essie Clarice OGLE (1899-1963)
- m. Unknown
- Daisy OGLE (1912-)
- James Kenneth OGLE (1914-)
- Stanley Keith OGLE (1917-)
- m. Henry Frank JULIAN in 1918
- Daphne Irene JULIAN (1919-)
- Nellie Mavis JULIAN (1920-)
- James Louise OGLE (1871-1947)
- Lillian May OGLE (1874-?)
- m. Samuel McGee KERR in 1893
- Norman Kenneth KERR (1894-1901)
- Doxford Davis OGLE (1877-1892)
Eleanor “Ellen” OGLE (c1836-1904)
- m. David TEMPLE (c1826-1907) b. Scotland gravestone here in Creswick, Vic.
- Rosanna Jane TEMPLE
- m. Jacob John WILSON of Portland in 1886
- John Gordon WILSON (1887-1902) of Longpoint Road Creswick, died at family home on Main Road Wallacetown in borough of Creswick.
- David Temple Palmerston WILSON (1889-1954) born Union Hill, Creswick, died Geelong West buried Western Cemetery adjacent to Jacob John & Rosanna Jane
- Ellen “Ellie” Maple Elizabeth WILSON (1891-1956) born Allandale, near Creswick, died Geelong
- George William Jamieson WILSON (1894-1909) born Wallacetown near Creswick, died and buried Creswick
- Harold Hopetoun WILSON (1895-1958) born Wallacetown, died Melbourne and cremated Fawkner Cemetery
- John TEMPLE
- Robert TEMPLE
- David TEMPLE - founder of Shearer's Union
- Jane TEMPLE
- m. Scott INKSTER
- Daphne INKSTER
- m. ? O'KEEFE
- Millicent O'KEEFE
- Florence O'KEEFE son
- Lizzie INKSTER
- m. George CLACK
- George CLACK
- Jack INKSTER
- Andrew INKSTER
- Florence INKSTER
- Wesley INKSTER
- Janet INKSTER
- m. William MURDOCH
- William MURDOCH
- 2 other sons
- Eliza TEMPLE
- George TEMPLE
- Florence TEMPLE
- Ilma TEMPLE
George OGLE (1841-1854) - died after accident with a cart in Rosebrook.
photos
Jane OGLE eldest daughter of John OGLE and Rosanna HUGHES
John Henry OGLE (Eliza GLARE's son) and wife Ruth HAIN (above)
Jack Glare OGLE's wedding in 1929 to wife Irene May ELLIOTT with his father John Henry OGLE on the left (above)
Alexander ALLAN (c1819-1906):
- born Aberdeen, Scotland c 1819
- died 9 Jun 1906, Warragul, Vic
- Presbyterian
- son of James ALLAN (?vet surgeon) and Janet UNKNOWN
- Tried Aberdeen Court of Justice 5 Oct 1843 for stealing 4 head of cattle.
- Transported & embarked 9 Jan 1844, London
- Departed 28 Jan 1844 from London on “Equestrian” , arrived in Van Dieman's Land 1 May 1844
- Conditional Pardon 27 Nov 1849
sources and links:
- “Sans Peur - Origins and history of the Glare family” - Marguereta Williams, 2002, Penfolk Publishing, Blackburn, Melbourne ISBN: 1875894276
- copies of this book are available for $A25 including postage & handling - email me on gna@netspace.net.au
- photos of the Ogle family courtesy of Beryl Newland, daughter of Jack Glare Ogle.
- photos of Jane Ogle and gravestone of Ellen Ogle courtesy of Roger Darby, great, great, grandson of Jane Ogle.
- family tree details of Alexander Allan sourced from Brett Weinberg via Roger Darby
- Kathy Page (Glover) who is descended from Helen Allan (via Roger Darby)
- Max Wilson who is descended from Rosanna Jane Temple - thanks for correcting these details.
- thanks to Michaela Fogarty for descendants of George Allan.
- http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:2068396&id=I102185516 - Joseph Ogle descendants
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