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descendants of John Ogle and Rosanna Hughes

introduction:

  • although the Ogle family are not directly related to me, John Ogle's son, Joseph married a sister of my ancestors, Eliza GLARE (1834-1893), and for completeness, I have devoted a page to the Ogle family.
  • John OGLE (1802-1877) of Felton, Northumberland was transported to Tasmania on the convict ship Layton, arriving 01 Sept. 1841 and spent time on Slopen island and Brickendon. He had been convicted of two offences - one for stealing six pounds worth of bacon and a sheet, and another for stealing ladies clothes. He got 7 yrs on each account and was lucky he didn't get more for attempting to escape. In 1840 (?), he was accommodated on the convict hulk Warrior - interestingly, my ancestor (and Eliza Glare's ancestor), Lt.Peter Mills was a midshipman on this ship in 1804 well before it became a convict hulk.
  • John OGLE's parents were:
    • John OGLE who was born in Newton on the Moor and baptised in Shilbottle, a village close to Lesbury.
    • Jane DOXFORD (c1775-): conflicting possible versions of which Jane DOXFORD:
      • born in Lesbury, the daughter of Arthur Doxford and Jane Watson, of Greenriggs near Lesbury, baptised at Lesbury on July 30 1775 (source: Meg Hartford)
      • born in Tynemouth, Northumberland, daughter of John DOXFORD and Mary GRAY (source: Kathy Page (Glover) who is descended from Helen Allan.) - it seems this version is incotrect as apparently this Jane DOXFORD married a John Chater at Tynemouth
  • John married Rosanna HUGHES (appears to have been born in Scotland c1806/07) who arrived in Tasmania at aged 42yrs with her 5 children in 1849.
  • Rosanna was recorded as living at 49 Bondgate, Alnwick, England.
  • John died in Koroit, near Port Fairy, Victoria.
  • The family moved to Port Fairy, Victoria.
  • a shipping record of passengers on the Red Rover (schooner), per City of Sydney from Portland Bay via Port Phillip in the The Cornwall Chronicle (Launceston, Tas. : 1835 - 1880), dated Saturday 27 April 1850 includes 2 passengers: John Ogle, Joseph Ogle, Jnr
  • Their daughter Jane married Alexander ALLAN, a convict who had been transported to Van Dieman's Land (Tasmania).
    • both Alexander ALLAN and David TEMPLE used to scavenge timber from shipwrecks on the beach and may have seen the “Mahogany” ship. Perhaps they were responsible for its disappearance!
    • source: Kathy Page (Glover)
  • Their son Joseph married Eliza GLARE, a daughter of a convict who also was transported to Tasmania and who also moved to Port Fairy in late 1840's or early 1850's - perhaps the two convicts knew each other in Tasmania?
    • one of Joseph's daughters was named Doxford perhaps after Doxford Hall and farm which were close to Alnwick in England.
    • Joseph and his wife, Eliza were buried in Tower Hill cemetery with the Ogle family.

Brief list of descendants of John OGLE and Rosanna HUGHES:

Jane OGLE (c1828-1899) d. in Warragul, Vic.

  • m. Alexander ALLAN (c1819-1906)in May, 1851 in Port Fairy, Vic.
  • John ALLAN (1851-)
  • Alexander ALLAN (1852-) b. Belfast, Vic
  • Rosannar ALLAN (1854-1921) b. Belfast, Vic. d. in Ballarat, Vic.
    • m. William McKENZIE (1838-1914) of St John, New Brunswick, Canada, in 1878 in Terang, Vic.
    • Hugh McKENZIE (1880-1935)
    • William McKENZIE (1881-1952)
    • Alexander McKENZIE (1883-1973)
    • Rosanah “Rose” McKENZIE (1884-1954)
    • James McKENZIE (1887-1888)
    • Cuthbert McKENZIE (1892-1893)
    • Ina May McKENZIE (1893-1894)
    • James Leadham McKENZIE (1895-1976)
    • Ellen Temple McKENZIE (1900-1991) b&d Ballarat
  • George ALLAN (1856-) b. Creswick
    • m. Emma Holmes
    • Honorah ALLAN (1886-1961) of Warragul
      • m. William John WALKER (1881-1960)
    • William George ALLAN (1889-1945)
    • George ALLAN (1891-1909)
    • Emma Veronica ALLAN (1893-1966)
    • Eileen Mary ALLAN (1894-1972)
    • Frances Susan ALLAN (1897-1971)
    • Thomas James ALLAN (1899-1965)
    • Anne Cecilia ALLAN (1902-1978)
      • m. William Gove FOGARTY in 1927
      • Allan FOGARTY
        • m. Lois Grace HOSKING
        • Kerin FOGARTY
          • m. Frank GRIFFITHS
          • William GRIFFITHS
          • Jamie GRIFFITHS
        • John FOGARTY (-1998)
    • Grace Kathleen ALLAN (1904-)
  • Jane ALLAN (1859-) b. Creswick
  • Joseph ALLAN (1860-1916) b. Bald Hills near Creswick, buried Coburg
  • Helen “Ellen” Josephine ALLAN (1862-1928) b. Belfast, Vic, buried Fawkner cemetery
  • Mary ALLAN (1864-) b. Belfast, Vic,
  • Hannah “Annie” ALLAN / ALAN (1866-) b. Belfast, Vic,
    • m. Thomas GAY
  • Catherine “Kate” ALLAN (1868-) b. Belfast, Vic,
  • David ALLAN (1870-1871) b. Belfast, Vic,
  • Albert Edward ALLAN (1874-) b. Belfast, Vic,

John OGLE (1831-1853) - died in Bendigo

Joseph OGLE (1834-1893)

  • m. Eliza GLARE (1834-1916) on 28/12/1853
  • Rosanna Hughes OGLE (1855-1942)
    • m. UNK Violet OGLE (1888)
  • Eliza Sophia OGLE (1858-1878)
  • Joseph Benjamin OGLE (1860-1923)
    • m. Louise Christina PAYTON in 1891
    • Joseph Benjamin OGLE (1892-1970)
      • m. Catherine Cecily THICKENS in 1926
    • Doris Ruby OGLE
    • Gladys Muriel OGLE
    • Hilda Riddell OGLE
    • Robert Gordon OGLE
    • William Edward OGLE
    • Eileen Cecelia OGLE
    • Charles Mills OGLE
    • Grace Darling OGLE
  • Jane Ann OGLE (1862-1888)
    • m. John SPRING in 1887
  • John Henry OGLE (1865-1933)
    • m. Ruth HAIN in 1896
    • Roy Hain OGLE
    • Gertie OGLE
      • m. DOWLING
    • Daisy OGLE
      • m. ALLEN
    • Jack Glare OGLE
      • m. Irene May ELLIOTT in 1929
  • George Glare OGLE (1869-1940)
    • m. Annie BOWKER (1866-) in 1895 see here
    • George OGLE (1896-)
    • Essie Clarice OGLE (1899-1963)
      • m. Unknown
      • Daisy OGLE (1912-)
      • James Kenneth OGLE (1914-)
      • Stanley Keith OGLE (1917-)
      • m. Henry Frank JULIAN in 1918
      • Daphne Irene JULIAN (1919-)
      • Nellie Mavis JULIAN (1920-)
  • James Louise OGLE (1871-1947)
  • Lillian May OGLE (1874-?)
    • m. Samuel McGee KERR in 1893
    • Norman Kenneth KERR (1894-1901)
  • Doxford Davis OGLE (1877-1892)

Eleanor “Ellen” OGLE (c1836-1904)

  • m. David TEMPLE (c1826-1907) b. Scotland gravestone here in Creswick, Vic.
  • Rosanna Jane TEMPLE
    • m. Jacob John WILSON of Portland in 1886
    • John Gordon WILSON (1887-1902) of Longpoint Road Creswick, died at family home on Main Road Wallacetown in borough of Creswick.
    • David Temple Palmerston WILSON (1889-1954) born Union Hill, Creswick, died Geelong West buried Western Cemetery adjacent to Jacob John & Rosanna Jane
    • Ellen “Ellie” Maple Elizabeth WILSON (1891-1956) born Allandale, near Creswick, died Geelong
    • George William Jamieson WILSON (1894-1909) born Wallacetown near Creswick, died and buried Creswick
    • Harold Hopetoun WILSON (1895-1958) born Wallacetown, died Melbourne and cremated Fawkner Cemetery
  • John TEMPLE
  • Robert TEMPLE
  • David TEMPLE - founder of Shearer's Union
  • Jane TEMPLE
    • m. Scott INKSTER
    • Daphne INKSTER
      • m. ? O'KEEFE
      • Millicent O'KEEFE
      • Florence O'KEEFE son
      • Lizzie INKSTER
        • m. George CLACK
        • George CLACK
      • Jack INKSTER
      • Andrew INKSTER
      • Florence INKSTER
      • Wesley INKSTER
      • Janet INKSTER
        • m. William MURDOCH
        • William MURDOCH
        • 2 other sons
  • Eliza TEMPLE
  • George TEMPLE
  • Florence TEMPLE
  • Ilma TEMPLE

George OGLE (1841-1854) - died after accident with a cart in Rosebrook.

photos

www.ayton.id.au_gary_genealogy_images_ogle_oglejane_m_allan.jpg Jane OGLE eldest daughter of John OGLE and Rosanna HUGHES

www.ayton.id.au_gary_genealogy_images_oglejohnhenry_hainruth.jpg John Henry OGLE (Eliza GLARE's son) and wife Ruth HAIN (above)

www.ayton.id.au_gary_genealogy_images_1929_oglejackglare_wed.jpg

www.ayton.id.au_gary_genealogy_images_1929_oglejackglare_wedgp.jpg Jack Glare OGLE's wedding in 1929 to wife Irene May ELLIOTT with his father John Henry OGLE on the left (above)

www.ayton.id.au_gary_genealogy_images_oglejackglare_sibs.jpg

Alexander ALLAN (c1819-1906):

  • born Aberdeen, Scotland c 1819
  • died 9 Jun 1906, Warragul, Vic
  • Presbyterian
  • son of James ALLAN (?vet surgeon) and Janet UNKNOWN
  • Tried Aberdeen Court of Justice 5 Oct 1843 for stealing 4 head of cattle.
  • Transported & embarked 9 Jan 1844, London
  • Departed 28 Jan 1844 from London on “Equestrian” , arrived in Van Dieman's Land 1 May 1844
  • Conditional Pardon 27 Nov 1849
  • Sans Peur - Origins and history of the Glare family” - Marguereta Williams, 2002, Penfolk Publishing, Blackburn, Melbourne ISBN: 1875894276
    • copies of this book are available for $A25 including postage & handling - email me on gna@netspace.net.au
  • photos of the Ogle family courtesy of Beryl Newland, daughter of Jack Glare Ogle.
  • photos of Jane Ogle and gravestone of Ellen Ogle courtesy of Roger Darby, great, great, grandson of Jane Ogle.
  • family tree details of Alexander Allan sourced from Brett Weinberg via Roger Darby
  • Kathy Page (Glover) who is descended from Helen Allan (via Roger Darby)
  • Max Wilson who is descended from Rosanna Jane Temple - thanks for correcting these details.
  • thanks to Michaela Fogarty for descendants of George Allan.
genealogy/oglejohn1802.txt · Last modified: 2015/01/08 19:50 by gary1